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Post by Atlanta Indians (Brent) on Jan 8, 2018 22:38:22 GMT -5
There is language in the constitution specifically tied to franchise tags and trading, I dont think any clarification needed for that, I think its more so tied to the trading of players coming off contracts that could be RFA’d by acquiring owners - there’s nothing in the constitution regarding it, so may need to get that in there (I dont think that scenario has yet taken place in DD3).
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Post by Philadelphia Astros (Paul) on Jan 8, 2018 22:54:12 GMT -5
This new information changes the way I value my upcoming free agents. They're more valuable now. An owner no longer has to worry about Bryce Harper's contact ending after 2018 because if he has other players he wants to tag or RFA, he can just trade Harper away for the same value as when he's under current contact in 2017. Was this rule implemented to encourage more trading? Seems like it would. Can we vote on this rule for this league?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 22:56:03 GMT -5
SO to be clear...we can trade a player we have franchise tagged. But, we cannot tag an additional player.
Also, we can trade any other free agents from our roster? The acquiring team must assign an RFA tag to said player? And the team who trades an RFA eligible player still gets to RFA two players.
This sound right?
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Post by Chicago Cub Sox (Scott) on Jan 8, 2018 23:09:03 GMT -5
SO to be clear...we can trade a player we have franchise tagged. But, we cannot tag an additional player. Also, we can trade any other free agents from our roster? The acquiring team must assign an RFA tag to said player? And the team who trades an RFA eligible player still gets to RFA two players. This sound right? Tripp, that is how I've always had things go. You can use your ONE Franchise Tag on a player and then trade him away if you want (if you can get a good return). You CANNOT Franchise Tag another player because you've already used your one Franchise Tag. You can trade away any free agent that an acquiring team then gets the rights to and can RFA. But that's ONE of the acquiring team's two RFA tags. He doesn't get 3. If you do trade away a player that another owner decides to RFA, you do still have 2 RFA tags yourself. That's hopefully as clear as I can be on this subject. Does this need to be voted on?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 8, 2018 23:21:02 GMT -5
That’s now crystal clear. I like it. No vote needed IMO
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Post by Philadelphia Astros (Paul) on Jan 8, 2018 23:22:49 GMT -5
Yes, I think this should be voted on.
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Post by Chicago Cub Sox (Scott) on Jan 8, 2018 23:24:00 GMT -5
So in DD4 (same constitution except it's daily lineup and 100 minors instead of 60) this deal happened on New Year's Eve:
I had discussion with another owner and decide to tag Wade Davis, $15M for one year 2018. In return I got a nice package of Jose Leclerc 18-21: $500k, MiLB Austin Slater, MiLB Andy Ibanez and 2019 sixth round draft pick.
I personally didn't want to spend the $15M to keep him with my limited cap space, but the other owner wanted him and could afford that. He only wanted one year so I tagged him for one year, used up my only Franchise Tag, and traded him away for 3 players and a pick. This is the ONLY way Franchise Tags can be moved, if you Tag prior to a trade. I do not get another one to use. That was it.
Oh, and the other owner has NOT used up his one Franchise Tag at all. He acquired my tagged player. Acquiring owner still has his own to use if he wants to.
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Post by Texas Giants (Alex) on Jan 12, 2018 12:13:03 GMT -5
What are the conditions that might cause a trade to be reversed?
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Post by Chicago Cub Sox (Scott) on Jan 14, 2018 9:14:22 GMT -5
What are the conditions that might cause a trade to be reversed? Not necessarily reversed, but here's an example of a deal that did not get approved. Just happened in DD4 yesterday, and Brent can back me up on this... Cincinnati Yankees Sends: Pick 5.11 Pick 6.11 Pick 7.11 Pick 8.11 Pick 9.8 Pick 9.11 Pick 11.11 Pick 12.11 Texas Giants Sends: Chase Headley 18: $1M Ryder Jones 18-21: $500k Our comments:Guys, Brent and I have discussed this. This deal cannot be approved the way it is. We have one major leaguer on the decline in his career, and another young MLBer who just made the bigs last year but doesn't seem to be a future All Star or fantasy stud at this point. On the other side we have EIGHT (8) draft picks, many of which could turn out to be stars, or duds, you never know. The other thing I specifically want to point out is our league rules of maintaining and building your farm to the best of your ability and in doing so having a minimum of 60, maximum of 100 players on that MILB roster. Cincinnati is over the minimum but barely at 63. There has to be some level of attention to that matter. Pick 5.11 does not go to Texas at this time. Please rework the deal to balance it out more. The deal was easily reworked to be a few picks for one player. All parties content.
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Post by Oakland Nationals (Brendan) on Dec 25, 2020 8:10:07 GMT -5
I have a couple of guys that are on expiring rookie deals. Did we ever decide what to do for arb years for these guys? I want to get a sense of salary planning for 2022.
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Post by Atlanta Indians (Brent) on Dec 26, 2020 13:51:27 GMT -5
Very good question Brendan, as we are now getting into this type of scenario. So for those players, once their four year rookie deals expire (in this case, that would be Edwin Diaz, Jorge Polanco, & Edwin Diaz on your team), you have the option to use one prospect tag a year, which gives them an additional 2 years of salary at 22: $3m & 23: $5m. So you would be able to use that prospect tag on one of those three players. Outside of that, you would then have the normal RFA & Franchise Tags to use.
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Post by Oakland Nationals (Brendan) on Dec 26, 2020 13:55:35 GMT -5
Are prospect tags tradable?
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Post by Atlanta Indians (Brent) on Dec 26, 2020 23:09:34 GMT -5
Prospect Tags are like the Franchise Tag - you can can trade it, however, the player you're trading has to be tagged first. So let's say, at the end of the 2021 season, you can decide to Prospect Tag Jorge Polanco and then trade him, but that means you've used your Prospect Tag for that year.
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Post by Arizona Rays (Dylan) on Nov 17, 2021 11:43:02 GMT -5
I have a quick question regarding another aspect of Franchise Tagging - I do not believe I could find anything regarding this.
From what I have read, you are able to restructure players contracts to within 40% of their AAS.
Does this also pertain to Franchise Tagged players?
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Post by Minnesota Rockies (Henry) on Nov 17, 2021 18:53:20 GMT -5
Hi Dylan- good question and tbh it's never been asked but I believe this one can't be rearranged, it's 15 each year. RFAs and FAs can be restructured within a certain amount of time of the auction ending, but Franchise and Prospect Tags can't have $ rearranged. I have a quick question regarding another aspect of Franchise Tagging - I do not believe I could find anything regarding this. From what I have read, you are able to restructure players contracts to within 40% of their AAS. Does this also pertain to Franchise Tagged players?
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Post by Atlanta Indians (Brent) on Nov 17, 2021 22:30:11 GMT -5
That is correct. It's only the winning Free Agent/Restricted Free Agent contracts that can be restructured.
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